From Majordomo-Owner@List-Server.net Wed Nov 17 09:12:17 1999 Received: from salmon.esosoft.net (salmon.esosoft.net [192.41.17.47]) by luke.iocenter.net (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA00938 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:12:16 -0500 Received: (salmon@localhost) by salmon.esosoft.net (8.8.5) id HAA23505; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:13:13 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:13:13 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199911171413.HAA23505@salmon.esosoft.net> To: tgrahl@iocenter.net From: Majordomo@List-Server.net Subject: Majordomo file: list 'mustangii-digest' file 'v01.n006' Reply-To: Majordomo@List-Server.net -- From: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net (mustangii-digest) To: mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Subject: mustangii-digest V1 #6 Reply-To: mustangii@List-Server.net Sender: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Errors-To: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Precedence: bulk mustangii-digest Friday, October 1 1999 Volume 01 : Number 006 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 07:59:07 -0400 From: " DAVE WILSON" Subject: RE: 11" brakes. Thanks Dave Fisher Titus Medical Center > My suggestion is this > stay away > from the caddy stuff. > Tom > Any particular reason to stay away from the caddy stuff.....my emergency brakes work and only required extension of the bracket and a stronger return spring. I'm curious why they are less desired? The kit's today, I think would be the way to go, unless you want a killer set up. Then your left with fabrication. I started my conversion before the proliferation of all the kits that are available today. > > >From: "stangiii" > >Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net > >To: "MustangII.net" > >Subject: 11" brakes. > >Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 12:58:14 -0400 > > > > > >I have heard of a 11" granada brake conversion using ford calapers. > > > >I was wondering if anyone can tell me what year and model of calaper is > >used, and the piston diameter. Mostly the piston diameter. > > > >Thanks. > > > >_________________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 09:34:44 -0400 From: "Tim Grahl" Subject: Re: II of the month The II of the month seems like a great idea. I have a lot planned for the Mustang II Network site in the next couple of months. I would like to add a FAQ section so we can put our knowledge of conversions, etc. into one place for new visitors to see instead of searching through old emails to find it. I am also going to be redesigning the first page of the site to make it more user friendly and allow for expansion. Any suggestions and / or comments would be appreciated. Tim - -----Original Message----- From: Tom Spencer To: mustangii@list-server.net Date: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 6:18 PM Subject: II of the month > > >Well there are only a few of us on this list so now is the time to get your >Pictures and car Bio in to The webmaster we are going to be starting a new >section Called II of the Month so for one glorious month your car could >grace the MustangII Network website. >The only rules for this are Photos must ne clear the Bio must be accurate >and the car Must be yours but then again who in the hell in there right mind >would lie about owning a II=)? Now your asking yourself is my car good >enough to be II of the Month? We don't care if it's in pieces on the Floor >as long as it's a II we want finished cars project cars, if you own more >then one please send them. >Tom >anyone Conneted to the Network site in Moderator or Admin capicity will get >teh shot end of the stick on this one. > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 13:38:23 -0400 From: "Tim Grahl" Subject: Re: II of the month Well, I got a little motivated and changed the front page for the site. This is just the beginning and I hope to see it grow as time goes by. Just as a side note, the email address that some of you use for me, tgrahl@edcor.com will be gone in the next couple of hours. Please use stangii@mustangii.net for any personal emails. Thanks. Tim - -----Original Message----- From: Tom Spencer To: mustangii@list-server.net Date: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 6:18 PM Subject: II of the month > > >Well there are only a few of us on this list so now is the time to get your >Pictures and car Bio in to The webmaster we are going to be starting a new >section Called II of the Month so for one glorious month your car could >grace the MustangII Network website. >The only rules for this are Photos must ne clear the Bio must be accurate >and the car Must be yours but then again who in the hell in there right mind >would lie about owning a II=)? Now your asking yourself is my car good >enough to be II of the Month? We don't care if it's in pieces on the Floor >as long as it's a II we want finished cars project cars, if you own more >then one please send them. >Tom >anyone Conneted to the Network site in Moderator or Admin capicity will get >teh shot end of the stick on this one. > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:46:34 -0400 From: " DAVE WILSON" Subject: RE: II of the month Now I'm confused, my mail has been sent to: mustangii@list-server.net Is this right? Or is your personal mail to be sent to the StangII@mustangii.net? Thanks Dave Fisher Titus Medical Center > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mustangii@List-Server.net > [mailto:owner-mustangii@List-Server.net]On Behalf Of Tim Grahl > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 1:38 PM > To: mustangii@list-server.net > Subject: Re: II of the month > > > Well, I got a little motivated and changed the front page for the site. > This is just the beginning and I hope to see it grow as time goes > by. Just > as a side note, the email address that some of you use for me, > tgrahl@edcor.com will be gone in the next couple of hours. Please use > stangii@mustangii.net for any personal emails. Thanks. > > Tim > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Spencer > To: mustangii@list-server.net > Date: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 6:18 PM > Subject: II of the month > > > > > > > >Well there are only a few of us on this list so now is the time > to get your > >Pictures and car Bio in to The webmaster we are going to be > starting a new > >section Called II of the Month so for one glorious month your car could > >grace the MustangII Network website. > >The only rules for this are Photos must ne clear the Bio must be accurate > >and the car Must be yours but then again who in the hell in there right > mind > >would lie about owning a II=)? Now your asking yourself is my car good > >enough to be II of the Month? We don't care if it's in pieces on > the Floor > >as long as it's a II we want finished cars project cars, if you own more > >then one please send them. > >Tom > >anyone Conneted to the Network site in Moderator or Admin > capicity will get > >teh shot end of the stick on this one. > > > > > >______________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 18:20:24 -0500 (CDT) From: "Eric N. Wilkinson" Subject: Re: II of the month Webmaster, To more fill out the bio of Eric Wilkinson's II: It was purchased from the Oklahoma area and now is in SouthEast Kansas. It was originally a V6 car, but when I bought it just in April of 1999 it was as the pictures in the previous email show. I sold my 1984 Mustang GT with a 4-cyl. turbo for the $2,000 that this one cost me. Replacing the 2-barrel made a huge difference. Now with the 13s providing such short gearing the tires will spin through all of first and second gears. I am currently working on a deal with Chas Walker to get some fourteens. Other soon to be plans include a complete polyurethane rebuild of the suspension in a few months as well as louvres (?) and a chin spoiler. I know this is no show car, but someday it could be. I have a good bas and it is unusual. I love the car because it's light weight provides for great acceleration. - -Eric ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 18:39:06 -0500 (CDT) From: "Eric N. Wilkinson" Subject: Re: II of the month don't know if this got through- it was emailed to me! On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Eric N. Wilkinson wrote: > Webmaster, > > To more fill out the bio of Eric Wilkinson's II: > > It was purchased from the Oklahoma area and now is in SouthEast Kansas. > It was originally a V6 car, but when I bought it just in April of 1999 it > was as the pictures in the previous email show. I sold my 1984 Mustang GT > with a 4-cyl. turbo for the $2,000 that this one cost me. Replacing the > 2-barrel made a huge difference. Now with the 13s providing such short > gearing the tires will spin through all of first and second gears. I am > currently working on a deal with Chas Walker to get some fourteens. Other > soon to be plans include a complete polyurethane rebuild of the suspension > in a few months as well as louvres (?) and a chin spoiler. I know this is > no show car, but someday it could be. I have a good bas and it is > unusual. I love the car because it's light weight provides for great > acceleration. > > -Eric > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 18:43:32 -0500 (CDT) From: "Eric N. Wilkinson" Subject: Re: II of the month Wow, I don't know why I get this stuff mailed back to me immediately - it is confirmation? On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Eric N. Wilkinson wrote: > don't know if this got through- it was emailed to me! > > > On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Eric N. Wilkinson wrote: > > > Webmaster, > > > > To more fill out the bio of Eric Wilkinson's II: > > > > It was purchased from the Oklahoma area and now is in SouthEast Kansas. > > It was originally a V6 car, but when I bought it just in April of 1999 it > > was as the pictures in the previous email show. I sold my 1984 Mustang GT > > with a 4-cyl. turbo for the $2,000 that this one cost me. Replacing the > > 2-barrel made a huge difference. Now with the 13s providing such short > > gearing the tires will spin through all of first and second gears. I am > > currently working on a deal with Chas Walker to get some fourteens. Other > > soon to be plans include a complete polyurethane rebuild of the suspension > > in a few months as well as louvres (?) and a chin spoiler. I know this is > > no show car, but someday it could be. I have a good bas and it is > > unusual. I love the car because it's light weight provides for great > > acceleration. > > > > -Eric > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ End of mustangii-digest V1 #6 ***************************** From Majordomo-Owner@List-Server.net Wed Nov 17 09:12:27 1999 Received: from salmon.esosoft.net (salmon.esosoft.net [192.41.17.47]) by luke.iocenter.net (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA00944 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:12:26 -0500 Received: (salmon@localhost) by salmon.esosoft.net (8.8.5) id HAA23545; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:13:20 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:13:20 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199911171413.HAA23545@salmon.esosoft.net> To: tgrahl@iocenter.net From: Majordomo@List-Server.net Subject: Majordomo file: list 'mustangii-digest' file 'v01.n007' Reply-To: Majordomo@List-Server.net -- From: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net (mustangii-digest) To: mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Subject: mustangii-digest V1 #7 Reply-To: mustangii@List-Server.net Sender: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Errors-To: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Precedence: bulk mustangii-digest Saturday, October 2 1999 Volume 01 : Number 007 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:57:38 -0400 From: "Timothy Grahl" Subject: RE: II of the month Sorry about the confusion. The mailing list mail is mustangii@list-server.net My personal mail and mail for the Network site is stangii@mustangii.net Any reply to any mail on the list will automatically go to mustangii@list-server.net - ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: " DAVE WILSON" Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:46:34 -0400 >Now I'm confused, my mail has been sent to: >mustangii@list-server.net > >Is this right? > >Or is your personal mail to be sent to the StangII@mustangii.net? > >Thanks >Dave > >Fisher Titus Medical Center > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-mustangii@List-Server.net >> [mailto:owner-mustangii@List-Server.net]On Behalf Of Tim Grahl >> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 1:38 PM >> To: mustangii@list-server.net >> Subject: Re: II of the month >> >> >> Well, I got a little motivated and changed the front page for the site. >> This is just the beginning and I hope to see it grow as time goes >> by. Just >> as a side note, the email address that some of you use for me, >> tgrahl@edcor.com will be gone in the next couple of hours. Please use >> stangii@mustangii.net for any personal emails. Thanks. >> >> Tim >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tom Spencer >> To: mustangii@list-server.net >> Date: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 6:18 PM >> Subject: II of the month >> >> >> > >> > >> >Well there are only a few of us on this list so now is the time >> to get your >> >Pictures and car Bio in to The webmaster we are going to be >> starting a new >> >section Called II of the Month so for one glorious month your car could >> >grace the MustangII Network website. >> >The only rules for this are Photos must ne clear the Bio must be accurate >> >and the car Must be yours but then again who in the hell in there right >> mind >> >would lie about owning a II=)? Now your asking yourself is my car good >> >enough to be II of the Month? We don't care if it's in pieces on >> the Floor >> >as long as it's a II we want finished cars project cars, if you own more >> >then one please send them. >> >Tom >> >anyone Conneted to the Network site in Moderator or Admin >> capicity will get >> >teh shot end of the stick on this one. >> > >> > >> >______________________________________________________ >> >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> > >> >> > > ------------------------------ End of mustangii-digest V1 #7 ***************************** From Majordomo-Owner@List-Server.net Wed Nov 17 09:12:32 1999 Received: from salmon.esosoft.net (salmon.esosoft.net [192.41.17.47]) by luke.iocenter.net (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA00945 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:12:30 -0500 Received: (salmon@localhost) by salmon.esosoft.net (8.8.5) id HAA23578; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:13:27 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:13:27 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199911171413.HAA23578@salmon.esosoft.net> To: tgrahl@iocenter.net From: Majordomo@List-Server.net Subject: Majordomo file: list 'mustangii-digest' file 'v01.n008' Reply-To: Majordomo@List-Server.net -- From: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net (mustangii-digest) To: mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Subject: mustangii-digest V1 #8 Reply-To: mustangii@List-Server.net Sender: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Errors-To: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Precedence: bulk mustangii-digest Sunday, October 3 1999 Volume 01 : Number 008 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 03:00:26 -0400 From: "stangiii" Subject: [none] Hey, Anyone here? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of mustangii-digest V1 #8 ***************************** From Majordomo-Owner@List-Server.net Wed Nov 17 09:12:38 1999 Received: from salmon.esosoft.net (salmon.esosoft.net [192.41.17.47]) by luke.iocenter.net (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA00948 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:12:37 -0500 Received: (salmon@localhost) by salmon.esosoft.net (8.8.5) id HAA23608; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:13:34 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:13:34 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199911171413.HAA23608@salmon.esosoft.net> To: tgrahl@iocenter.net From: Majordomo@List-Server.net Subject: Majordomo file: list 'mustangii-digest' file 'v01.n009' Reply-To: Majordomo@List-Server.net -- From: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net (mustangii-digest) To: mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Subject: mustangii-digest V1 #9 Reply-To: mustangii@List-Server.net Sender: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Errors-To: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Precedence: bulk mustangii-digest Monday, October 4 1999 Volume 01 : Number 009 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 18:53:03 EDT From: "Tom Spencer" Subject: Re: We are here all 4 of us this list is a little slow at the moment but we are hoping it will pick up in the coming months. With winter setting in in Michigan it should get real exciting soon. This is the time of the year that all those projects get done. I'm looking at a CobraII project right now. hopefully we can do a full build up of it here on the network, and Tim's car is coming nicely we should have the engine complete and back in by the end of the month then we will doing the body and interior work so stay tuned. don't be shy there are a few of us here. Tom >From: "stangiii" >Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net >To: "MustangII.net" >Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 03:00:26 -0400 > > >Hey, Anyone here? > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of mustangii-digest V1 #9 ***************************** From Majordomo-Owner@List-Server.net Wed Nov 17 09:12:56 1999 Received: from salmon.esosoft.net (salmon.esosoft.net [192.41.17.47]) by luke.iocenter.net (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA00953 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:12:51 -0500 Received: (salmon@localhost) by salmon.esosoft.net (8.8.5) id HAA23706; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:13:49 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:13:49 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199911171413.HAA23706@salmon.esosoft.net> To: tgrahl@iocenter.net From: Majordomo@List-Server.net Subject: Majordomo file: list 'mustangii-digest' file 'v01.n010' Reply-To: Majordomo@List-Server.net -- From: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net (mustangii-digest) To: mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Subject: mustangii-digest V1 #10 Reply-To: mustangii@List-Server.net Sender: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Errors-To: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Precedence: bulk mustangii-digest Wednesday, October 6 1999 Volume 01 : Number 010 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 5 Oct 99 12:14:56 -0400 From: "Timothy Grahl" Subject: Car of the Month The car of the month is up for October. Please check it out. Send in your requests for November's Car of the month now. We want to get the FAQ section underway, if you have anything to contribute, let me know. Tim Grahl Mustang II Network stangii@mustangii.net (personal email) ------------------------------ End of mustangii-digest V1 #10 ****************************** From Majordomo-Owner@List-Server.net Wed Nov 17 09:13:57 1999 Received: from salmon.esosoft.net (salmon.esosoft.net [192.41.17.47]) by luke.iocenter.net (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA00957 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:13:56 -0500 Received: (salmon@localhost) by salmon.esosoft.net (8.8.5) id HAA23898; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:14:54 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:14:54 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199911171414.HAA23898@salmon.esosoft.net> To: tgrahl@iocenter.net From: Majordomo@List-Server.net Subject: Majordomo file: list 'mustangii-digest' file 'v01.n011' Reply-To: Majordomo@List-Server.net -- From: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net (mustangii-digest) To: mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Subject: mustangii-digest V1 #11 Reply-To: mustangii@List-Server.net Sender: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Errors-To: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Precedence: bulk mustangii-digest Thursday, October 7 1999 Volume 01 : Number 011 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 16:22:36 PDT From: "James Finley" Subject: Urethane Repairs Hello list. I am slowly restoring a King Cobra and I'm wondering if anyone knows of a location that repairs the air dams and bumpers? I'll probably have lots of these type questions over time. Thanks in advance. Jim Finley 64.5 "D" Conv.....78 King Cobra.....96 Mystic Cobra ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of mustangii-digest V1 #11 ****************************** From Majordomo-Owner@List-Server.net Wed Nov 17 09:13:59 1999 Received: from salmon.esosoft.net (salmon.esosoft.net [192.41.17.47]) by luke.iocenter.net (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA00958 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:13:57 -0500 Received: (salmon@localhost) by salmon.esosoft.net (8.8.5) id HAA23903; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:14:55 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:14:55 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199911171414.HAA23903@salmon.esosoft.net> To: tgrahl@iocenter.net From: Majordomo@List-Server.net Subject: Majordomo file: list 'mustangii-digest' file 'v01.n012' Reply-To: Majordomo@List-Server.net -- From: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net (mustangii-digest) To: mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Subject: mustangii-digest V1 #12 Reply-To: mustangii@List-Server.net Sender: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Errors-To: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Precedence: bulk mustangii-digest Friday, October 8 1999 Volume 01 : Number 012 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 07:57:57 -0400 From: " DAVE WILSON" Subject: RE: Urethane Repairs No I don't, but I suspect any body shop could. 3M makes a flexible body putty, two part, almost a urethane itself. It adheres well and I used it to fill in the trim moldings on my bumpers. After 5 years you still can't tell where the seams are. Before sinking $$ into the putty, evaluate your bumpers. If they are dried out, the putty won't do you any good. It will just crack in other places. The urethane base still has to be pliable or you'll be wasting you time. Thanks Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mustangii@List-Server.net > [mailto:owner-mustangii@List-Server.net]On Behalf Of James Finley > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 7:23 PM > To: mustangii@list-server.net > Subject: Urethane Repairs > > > Hello list. I am slowly restoring a King Cobra and I'm wondering > if anyone > knows of a location that repairs the air dams and bumpers? I'll probably > have lots of these type questions over time. > Thanks in advance. > Jim Finley > 64.5 "D" Conv.....78 King Cobra.....96 Mystic Cobra > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 12:13:54 EDT From: "Tom Spencer" Subject: Invoice update Rumor is that Dale gave the invoices away to a guy in michigan first name Dave I got no last name, But from what I heard the guy has a bunch of II's and has no plans to let anyone have there invoice. anyone know this guy and how I can get ahold of him if this is true? I can't get in touch with Dale at the moment any help would be great let me know. Tom 77 MachI ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:18:34 -0400 From: " DAVE WILSON" Subject: RE: Invoice update I hope it's not who I think your referring to: Dave (last name starts with P) Codra276 or something like that. My experience is that he has a temper and flamed the StangII list twice before finally leaving. He had a lot of II's and city made him move them. It would be unfortunate if Dale Rabe gave them to that particular individual. Thanks Dave Wilson > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mustangii@List-Server.net > [mailto:owner-mustangii@List-Server.net]On Behalf Of Tom Spencer > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 12:14 PM > To: mustangii@list-server.net > Subject: Invoice update > > > > > > Rumor is that Dale gave the invoices away to a guy in michigan first name > Dave I got no last name, But from what I heard the guy has a > bunch of II's > and has no plans to let anyone have there invoice. anyone know > this guy and > how I can get ahold of him if this is true? I can't get in touch > with Dale > at the moment any help would be great let me know. > Tom > 77 MachI > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:50:33 EDT From: Pineaplpkr@aol.com Subject: 5.0 fuel injected motor and 5 speed tranny Hi I'm new too all of this but I have a question hopefully someone can answer. Does anyone have the information on what has to be done in order to put 5.0 fuel injected and 5 speed in a 78 cobra 11? If so could I please get that information. If it needs to be copied and mailed I'd pay to have it done. Thanks Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 16:29:43 EDT From: "Tom Spencer" Subject: RE: Invoice update Dave so if Dale gave them to this guy how bad could it be? I mean do you know this guy or what and how bad is he to deal with? I'm in michigan with Tim and we have both heard of the guy I've never met him and until today I never knew his name. so whats this guy's story anyway. I really don't want the invoices in the wrong hands. Tom >From: " DAVE WILSON" >Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net >To: >Subject: RE: Invoice update >Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:18:34 -0400 > >I hope it's not who I think your referring to: Dave (last name starts with >P) Codra276 or something like that. My experience is that he has a temper >and flamed the StangII list twice before finally leaving. He had a lot of >II's and city made him move them. > >It would be unfortunate if Dale Rabe gave them to that particular >individual. > > >Thanks >Dave Wilson > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-mustangii@List-Server.net > > [mailto:owner-mustangii@List-Server.net]On Behalf Of Tom Spencer > > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 12:14 PM > > To: mustangii@list-server.net > > Subject: Invoice update > > > > > > > > > > > > Rumor is that Dale gave the invoices away to a guy in michigan first >name > > Dave I got no last name, But from what I heard the guy has a > > bunch of II's > > and has no plans to let anyone have there invoice. anyone know > > this guy and > > how I can get ahold of him if this is true? I can't get in touch > > with Dale > > at the moment any help would be great let me know. > > Tom > > 77 MachI > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 16:31:02 EDT From: "Tom Spencer" Subject: Re: 5.0 fuel injected motor and 5 speed tranny Kevin contact me off list and I'll give you a number of a guy that I know that did one. Tom >From: Pineaplpkr@aol.com >Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net >To: mustangii@list-server.net >Subject: 5.0 fuel injected motor and 5 speed tranny >Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:50:33 EDT > >Hi >I'm new too all of this but I have a question hopefully someone can answer. >Does anyone have the information on what has to be done in order to put 5.0 >fuel injected and 5 speed in a 78 cobra 11? If so could I please get that >information. If it needs to be copied and mailed I'd pay to have it done. >Thanks Kevin ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:48:46 -0400 From: " DAVE WILSON" Subject: RE: Invoice update I just remember the flame job he did to the list, for typing he did a real good job of expressing his feelings. I've never met or talked to him, just know he seemed to fly off the handle. I don't know if it's a coincendence same name, after all the only name we're going on is "Dave", but the original posting said he had no plans on letting anyone have copies of the invoices so, to me, it reminded me of the original character I was talking about. Thanks Dave Fisher Titus Medical Center > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mustangii@List-Server.net > [mailto:owner-mustangii@List-Server.net]On Behalf Of Tom Spencer > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 4:30 PM > To: mustangii@list-server.net > Subject: RE: Invoice update > > > > Dave so if Dale gave them to this guy how bad could it be? I mean do you > know this guy or what and how bad is he to deal with? I'm in > michigan with > Tim and we have both heard of the guy I've never met him and > until today I > never knew his name. so whats this guy's story anyway. I really > don't want > the invoices in the wrong hands. > Tom > > >From: " DAVE WILSON" > >Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net > >To: > >Subject: RE: Invoice update > >Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:18:34 -0400 > > > >I hope it's not who I think your referring to: Dave (last name > starts with > >P) Codra276 or something like that. My experience is that he > has a temper > >and flamed the StangII list twice before finally leaving. He > had a lot of > >II's and city made him move them. > > > >It would be unfortunate if Dale Rabe gave them to that particular > >individual. > > > > > >Thanks > >Dave Wilson > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-mustangii@List-Server.net > > > [mailto:owner-mustangii@List-Server.net]On Behalf Of Tom Spencer > > > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 12:14 PM > > > To: mustangii@list-server.net > > > Subject: Invoice update > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rumor is that Dale gave the invoices away to a guy in michigan first > >name > > > Dave I got no last name, But from what I heard the guy has a > > > bunch of II's > > > and has no plans to let anyone have there invoice. anyone know > > > this guy and > > > how I can get ahold of him if this is true? I can't get in touch > > > with Dale > > > at the moment any help would be great let me know. > > > Tom > > > 77 MachI > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ End of mustangii-digest V1 #12 ****************************** From Majordomo-Owner@List-Server.net Wed Nov 17 09:17:17 1999 Received: from salmon.esosoft.net (salmon.esosoft.net [192.41.17.47]) by luke.iocenter.net (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA00974 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:17:16 -0500 Received: (salmon@localhost) by salmon.esosoft.net (8.8.5) id HAA24554; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:17:59 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:17:59 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199911171417.HAA24554@salmon.esosoft.net> To: tgrahl@iocenter.net From: Majordomo@List-Server.net Subject: Majordomo file: list 'mustangii-digest' file 'v01.n013' Reply-To: Majordomo@List-Server.net -- From: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net (mustangii-digest) To: mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Subject: mustangii-digest V1 #13 Reply-To: mustangii@List-Server.net Sender: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Errors-To: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Precedence: bulk mustangii-digest Saturday, October 9 1999 Volume 01 : Number 013 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:03:07 -0500 From: "Chris Pasternak" Subject: Re: Invoice update Dave I remember that guy. He did have a real problem with anyone contridicting what he said. He later tried to get on the list with a different e-mail address and start more crap if I remember right. I hope if Dale gave them to someone named dave its not this guy or at least that he has mellowed out. Not that I had a problem with him but his flaming got so bad that I just deleted anything he had to say without reading it. CHRIS 76 Blue COBRA II 351 77.5 White / Blue COBRA II 2.8 71 Lincoln Mark III 460 (best original non-classic auburn, 1st LCOC nat) - -----Original Message----- From: DAVE WILSON To: mustangii@List-Server.net Date: Thursday, October 07, 1999 3:50 PM Subject: RE: Invoice update >I just remember the flame job he did to the list, for typing he did a real >good job of expressing his feelings. I've never met or talked to him, just >know he seemed to fly off the handle. > >I don't know if it's a coincendence same name, after all the only name we're >going on is "Dave", but the original posting said he had no plans on letting >anyone have copies of the invoices so, to me, it reminded me of the original >character I was talking about. > >Thanks >Dave > >Fisher Titus Medical Center > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-mustangii@List-Server.net >> [mailto:owner-mustangii@List-Server.net]On Behalf Of Tom Spencer >> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 4:30 PM >> To: mustangii@list-server.net >> Subject: RE: Invoice update >> >> >> >> Dave so if Dale gave them to this guy how bad could it be? I mean do you >> know this guy or what and how bad is he to deal with? I'm in >> michigan with >> Tim and we have both heard of the guy I've never met him and >> until today I >> never knew his name. so whats this guy's story anyway. I really >> don't want >> the invoices in the wrong hands. >> Tom >> >> >From: " DAVE WILSON" >> >Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net >> >To: >> >Subject: RE: Invoice update >> >Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:18:34 -0400 >> > >> >I hope it's not who I think your referring to: Dave (last name >> starts with >> >P) Codra276 or something like that. My experience is that he >> has a temper >> >and flamed the StangII list twice before finally leaving. He >> had a lot of >> >II's and city made him move them. >> > >> >It would be unfortunate if Dale Rabe gave them to that particular >> >individual. >> > >> > >> >Thanks >> >Dave Wilson >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: owner-mustangii@List-Server.net >> > > [mailto:owner-mustangii@List-Server.net]On Behalf Of Tom Spencer >> > > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 12:14 PM >> > > To: mustangii@list-server.net >> > > Subject: Invoice update >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Rumor is that Dale gave the invoices away to a guy in michigan first >> >name >> > > Dave I got no last name, But from what I heard the guy has a >> > > bunch of II's >> > > and has no plans to let anyone have there invoice. anyone know >> > > this guy and >> > > how I can get ahold of him if this is true? I can't get in touch >> > > with Dale >> > > at the moment any help would be great let me know. >> > > Tom >> > > 77 MachI >> > > >> > > ______________________________________________________ >> > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> > > >> > >> > >> >> ______________________________________________________ >> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> > ------------------------------ End of mustangii-digest V1 #13 ****************************** From Majordomo-Owner@List-Server.net Wed Nov 17 09:17:27 1999 Received: from salmon.esosoft.net (salmon.esosoft.net [192.41.17.47]) by luke.iocenter.net (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA00975 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:17:21 -0500 Received: (salmon@localhost) by salmon.esosoft.net (8.8.5) id HAA24571; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:18:05 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:18:05 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199911171418.HAA24571@salmon.esosoft.net> To: tgrahl@iocenter.net From: Majordomo@List-Server.net Subject: Majordomo file: list 'mustangii-digest' file 'v01.n014' Reply-To: Majordomo@List-Server.net -- From: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net (mustangii-digest) To: mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Subject: mustangii-digest V1 #14 Reply-To: mustangii@List-Server.net Sender: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Errors-To: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Precedence: bulk mustangii-digest Wednesday, October 13 1999 Volume 01 : Number 014 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Oct 99 07:48:46 -0400 From: "Timothy Grahl" Subject: New Info We have added a couple of FAQs to the site in an attempt to centralize the Mustang II information. If you have additional FAQs, please send them to me. We have our October Car of the Month, we are looking for one for November. If there is any other information you would like to see on the site, mail that too. No furthur word on the invoices, Dale may be at our meeting tonight, maybe we can straighten a few things out. Tim ------------------------------ End of mustangii-digest V1 #14 ****************************** From Majordomo-Owner@List-Server.net Wed Nov 17 09:17:32 1999 Received: from salmon.esosoft.net (salmon.esosoft.net [192.41.17.47]) by luke.iocenter.net (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA00976 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:17:31 -0500 Received: (salmon@localhost) by salmon.esosoft.net (8.8.5) id HAA24631; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:18:20 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:18:20 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199911171418.HAA24631@salmon.esosoft.net> To: tgrahl@iocenter.net From: Majordomo@List-Server.net Subject: Majordomo file: list 'mustangii-digest' file 'v01.n015' Reply-To: Majordomo@List-Server.net -- From: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net (mustangii-digest) To: mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Subject: mustangii-digest V1 #15 Reply-To: mustangii@List-Server.net Sender: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Errors-To: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Precedence: bulk mustangii-digest Friday, October 15 1999 Volume 01 : Number 015 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:29:02 -0400 From: " DAVE WILSON" Subject: RE: New Info So did Dale come to your meeting? Thanks Dave Fisher Titus Medical Center > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mustangii@List-Server.net > [mailto:owner-mustangii@List-Server.net]On Behalf Of Timothy Grahl > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 7:49 AM > To: mustangii@list-server.net > Subject: New Info > > > We have added a couple of FAQs to the site in an attempt to > centralize the Mustang II information. > If you have additional FAQs, please send them to me. We have our > October Car of the Month, we are looking for one for November. > > If there is any other information you would like to see on the > site, mail that too. > > > No furthur word on the invoices, Dale may be at our meeting > tonight, maybe we can straighten a few things out. > > Tim > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Oct 99 14:08:13 -0400 From: "Timothy Grahl" Subject: RE: New Info Dale was not at the meeting, I heard that he is out of town but can't confirm that either. Ed, who is working with us and Dale, is also out of town and won't be back for a week or two. I am doing my best to find out what is going on short of going to Belleville and camping out in front of Dale's house. - ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: " DAVE WILSON" Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:29:02 -0400 >So did Dale come to your meeting? > >Thanks >Dave > >Fisher Titus Medical Center > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-mustangii@List-Server.net >> [mailto:owner-mustangii@List-Server.net]On Behalf Of Timothy Grahl >> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 7:49 AM >> To: mustangii@list-server.net >> Subject: New Info >> >> >> We have added a couple of FAQs to the site in an attempt to >> centralize the Mustang II information. >> If you have additional FAQs, please send them to me. We have our >> October Car of the Month, we are looking for one for November. >> >> If there is any other information you would like to see on the >> site, mail that too. >> >> >> No furthur word on the invoices, Dale may be at our meeting >> tonight, maybe we can straighten a few things out. >> >> Tim >> >> >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:38:15 EDT From: "Tom Spencer" Subject: RE: New Info Well uncomfirmed but could be true. Seems Dale heard about all the crap that was blasted at him on the other list and decided that it just was not worth it and made a deal on the invoices. from the sounds of it Dale swapped the invoices for a 76 Cobra II. If I would have known that I might have swapped a 76 Cobra for the invoices but like I said no one has talked to Dale not sure where he is I might have to take a drive down there this weekend and find out for myself. I'll keep everyone posted. >From: "Timothy Grahl" >Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net >To: mustangii@list-server.net >Subject: RE: New Info >Date: Thu, 14 Oct 99 14:08:13 -0400 > >Dale was not at the meeting, I heard that he is out of town but can't >confirm that either. >Ed, who is working with us and Dale, is also out of town and won't be back >for a week or two. > >I am doing my best to find out what is going on short of going to >Belleville and camping out in front of Dale's house. > > > >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >From: " DAVE WILSON" >Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net >Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:29:02 -0400 > > >So did Dale come to your meeting? > > > >Thanks > >Dave > > > >Fisher Titus Medical Center > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-mustangii@List-Server.net > >> [mailto:owner-mustangii@List-Server.net]On Behalf Of Timothy Grahl > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 7:49 AM > >> To: mustangii@list-server.net > >> Subject: New Info > >> > >> > >> We have added a couple of FAQs to the site in an attempt to > >> centralize the Mustang II information. > >> If you have additional FAQs, please send them to me. We have our > >> October Car of the Month, we are looking for one for November. > >> > >> If there is any other information you would like to see on the > >> site, mail that too. > >> > >> > >> No furthur word on the invoices, Dale may be at our meeting > >> tonight, maybe we can straighten a few things out. > >> > >> Tim > >> > >> > >> > > > > Tom 77 MachI t-top 4 speed broken crank 302 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 04:57:25 EDT From: Pineaplpkr@aol.com Subject: RE: New Info Hi I got in on this late and I don't know what you guys are talking about. What is it all about. What are these invoices that you are talking about? Kevin ------------------------------ End of mustangii-digest V1 #15 ****************************** From Majordomo-Owner@List-Server.net Wed Nov 17 09:18:10 1999 Received: from salmon.esosoft.net (salmon.esosoft.net [192.41.17.47]) by luke.iocenter.net (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA00980 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:18:06 -0500 Received: (salmon@localhost) by salmon.esosoft.net (8.8.5) id HAA24644; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:18:25 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:18:25 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199911171418.HAA24644@salmon.esosoft.net> To: tgrahl@iocenter.net From: Majordomo@List-Server.net Subject: Majordomo file: list 'mustangii-digest' file 'v01.n016' Reply-To: Majordomo@List-Server.net -- From: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net (mustangii-digest) To: mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Subject: mustangii-digest V1 #16 Reply-To: mustangii@List-Server.net Sender: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Errors-To: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Precedence: bulk mustangii-digest Saturday, October 16 1999 Volume 01 : Number 016 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 15 Oct 99 08:08:30 -0400 From: "Timothy Grahl" Subject: Re: RE: New Info Dale is(?) the owner of all of the original Mustang II invoices. The invoice is the second copy of the "window sticker" and lists the price and options of your specific car. He is(?) providing copies of these invoices for II owners who provide him with a copy of their title and $30.00 In the past, some people have been disappointed with Dale because it take a while for him to send the invoice. Some people have waited months and some have waited weeks. You can be in a hurry with Dale. Some of us from Michigan were planning on getting together with Dale at the end of the month. With this rumor that he got rid of the invoices though that might not happen. Tim - ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Pineaplpkr@aol.com Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 04:57:25 EDT >Hi >I got in on this late and I don't know what you guys are talking about. What >is it all about. What are these invoices that you are talking about? Kevin > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:51:12 EDT From: "Tom Spencer" Subject: Re: RE: New Info Open question does anyone have this Dave's E-Mail or know if he has E-Mail I'll take e-mail ro a phone number maybe I can talk to him and see whats going on. Sombody help me out. >From: "Timothy Grahl" >Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net >To: mustangii@list-server.net >Subject: Re: RE: New Info >Date: Fri, 15 Oct 99 08:08:30 -0400 > >Dale is(?) the owner of all of the original Mustang II invoices. >The invoice is the second copy of the "window sticker" and lists the >price and options of your specific car. He is(?) providing copies of >these invoices for II owners who provide him with a copy of their >title and $30.00 In the past, some people have been disappointed with >Dale because it take a while for him to send the invoice. Some people have >waited months and some have waited weeks. You can be in a hurry with Dale. >Some of us from Michigan were planning on getting together with Dale at >the end of the month. With this rumor that he got rid of the invoices >though >that might not happen. > >Tim > >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >From: Pineaplpkr@aol.com >Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net >Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 04:57:25 EDT > > >Hi > >I got in on this late and I don't know what you guys are talking about. >What > >is it all about. What are these invoices that you are talking about? >Kevin > > Tom 77 MachI t-top 4 speed broken crank 302 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of mustangii-digest V1 #16 ****************************** From Majordomo-Owner@List-Server.net Wed Nov 17 09:17:32 1999 Received: from salmon.esosoft.net (salmon.esosoft.net [192.41.17.47]) by luke.iocenter.net (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA00977 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:17:32 -0500 Received: (salmon@localhost) by salmon.esosoft.net (8.8.5) id HAA24649; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:18:31 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:18:31 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199911171418.HAA24649@salmon.esosoft.net> To: tgrahl@iocenter.net From: Majordomo@List-Server.net Subject: Majordomo file: list 'mustangii-digest' file 'v01.n017' Reply-To: Majordomo@List-Server.net -- From: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net (mustangii-digest) To: mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Subject: mustangii-digest V1 #17 Reply-To: mustangii@List-Server.net Sender: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Errors-To: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Precedence: bulk mustangii-digest Sunday, October 17 1999 Volume 01 : Number 017 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 11:23:23 -0500 From: Donnie Nix Subject: Re: New Info Someone gave me this address and phone number for Dale Rabe on August 11, 1999. I called and talked to him and he told me what I had to do to get my invoice. He was very polite and helpful. Hope its current. Mustang II Production, PO Box 784, Belleville, MI 48112-0784. Phone: (313)461-9577. Tom Spencer wrote: > Open question does anyone have this Dave's E-Mail or know if he has E-Mail > I'll take e-mail ro a phone number maybe I can talk to him and see whats > going on. Sombody help me out. > > >From: "Timothy Grahl" > >Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net > >To: mustangii@list-server.net > >Subject: Re: RE: New Info > >Date: Fri, 15 Oct 99 08:08:30 -0400 > > > >Dale is(?) the owner of all of the original Mustang II invoices. > >The invoice is the second copy of the "window sticker" and lists the > >price and options of your specific car. He is(?) providing copies of > >these invoices for II owners who provide him with a copy of their > >title and $30.00 In the past, some people have been disappointed with > >Dale because it take a while for him to send the invoice. Some people have > >waited months and some have waited weeks. You can be in a hurry with Dale. > >Some of us from Michigan were planning on getting together with Dale at > >the end of the month. With this rumor that he got rid of the invoices > >though > >that might not happen. > > > >Tim > > > >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > >From: Pineaplpkr@aol.com > >Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net > >Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 04:57:25 EDT > > > > >Hi > > >I got in on this late and I don't know what you guys are talking about. > >What > > >is it all about. What are these invoices that you are talking about? > >Kevin > > > > > Tom 77 MachI t-top 4 speed broken crank 302 > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of mustangii-digest V1 #17 ****************************** From Majordomo-Owner@List-Server.net Wed Nov 17 09:19:07 1999 Received: from salmon.esosoft.net (salmon.esosoft.net [192.41.17.47]) by luke.iocenter.net (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA00984 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:19:07 -0500 Received: (salmon@localhost) by salmon.esosoft.net (8.8.5) id HAA24677; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:18:31 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:18:31 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199911171418.HAA24677@salmon.esosoft.net> To: tgrahl@iocenter.net From: Majordomo@List-Server.net Subject: Majordomo file: list 'mustangii-digest' file 'v01.n018' Reply-To: Majordomo@List-Server.net -- From: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net (mustangii-digest) To: mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Subject: mustangii-digest V1 #18 Reply-To: mustangii@List-Server.net Sender: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Errors-To: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Precedence: bulk mustangii-digest Monday, October 18 1999 Volume 01 : Number 018 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 08:59:07 PDT From: "James Finley" Subject: AM/FM Stereo with Cassette Was the 1978 model year the first time the cassette player was offered? Thanks, JF ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:30:16 EDT From: "Koneta & Ed Gribble" Subject: Re: AM/FM Stereo with Cassette 78 was the first year for the AM/FM cassette, as well as the last year for the AM/FM/8track Ed Gribble >From: "James Finley" >Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net >To: mustangii@list-server.net >Subject: AM/FM Stereo with Cassette >Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 08:59:07 PDT > >Was the 1978 model year the first time the cassette player was offered? >Thanks, JF > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 20:44:09 -0400 From: "stangiii" Subject: Re: AM/FM Stereo with Cassette - ---------- > From: Koneta & Ed Gribble > To: mustangii@list-server.net > Subject: Re: AM/FM Stereo with Cassette > Date: Sunday, October 17, 1999 7:30 PM > > 78 was the first year for the AM/FM cassette, as well as the last year for > the AM/FM/8track > Ed Gribble Can this be referenced? I thought 77 was the last year for the 8 track. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:30:22 PDT From: "James Finley" Subject: Re: AM/FM Stereo with Cassette Absolutely. My 1978 Mustang brochure (on page 14) lists 6 available audio systems: 1. AM 2. Am with stereo 8 track player. 3. AM/FM monaural 4. AM/FM stereo 5. AM/FM stereo with cartridge tape player. 8 track auto or manual tape channel indexing. 6. AM/FM stereo with cassette tape player. It appears the 8 track was available in 2 "flavors" for the 1978 model year. >From: "stangiii" >Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net >To: >Subject: Re: AM/FM Stereo with Cassette >Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 20:44:09 -0400 > > > >---------- > > From: Koneta & Ed Gribble > > To: mustangii@list-server.net > > Subject: Re: AM/FM Stereo with Cassette > > Date: Sunday, October 17, 1999 7:30 PM > > > > 78 was the first year for the AM/FM cassette, as well as the last year >for > > the AM/FM/8track > > Ed Gribble > >Can this be referenced? > >I thought 77 was the last year for the 8 track. > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 01:35:56 -0400 From: "stangiii" Subject: Re: AM/FM Stereo with Cassette - ---------- > From: James Finley > To: mustangii@list-server.net > Subject: Re: AM/FM Stereo with Cassette > Date: Sunday, October 17, 1999 10:30 PM > > Absolutely. My 1978 Mustang brochure (on page 14) lists 6 available audio > systems: > ........ > It appears the 8 track was available in 2 "flavors" for the 1978 model year. Do you have a scanner? I need to see and archive the info as I was told and have seen different. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of mustangii-digest V1 #18 ****************************** From Majordomo-Owner@List-Server.net Wed Nov 17 09:17:48 1999 Received: from salmon.esosoft.net (salmon.esosoft.net [192.41.17.47]) by luke.iocenter.net (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA00978 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:17:47 -0500 Received: (salmon@localhost) by salmon.esosoft.net (8.8.5) id HAA24685; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:18:31 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:18:31 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199911171418.HAA24685@salmon.esosoft.net> To: tgrahl@iocenter.net From: Majordomo@List-Server.net Subject: Majordomo file: list 'mustangii-digest' file 'v01.n019' Reply-To: Majordomo@List-Server.net -- From: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net (mustangii-digest) To: mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Subject: mustangii-digest V1 #19 Reply-To: mustangii@List-Server.net Sender: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Errors-To: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Precedence: bulk mustangii-digest Tuesday, October 19 1999 Volume 01 : Number 019 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:05:44 PDT From: "James Finley" Subject: Re: AM/FM Stereo with Cassette No, I don't have a scanner. However, I'm working on it. I'll either get it scanned, fax it to myself, or send it to you via snail mail. JF ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of mustangii-digest V1 #19 ****************************** From Majordomo-Owner@List-Server.net Wed Nov 17 09:19:29 1999 Received: from salmon.esosoft.net (salmon.esosoft.net [192.41.17.47]) by luke.iocenter.net (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA00987 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:19:28 -0500 Received: (salmon@localhost) by salmon.esosoft.net (8.8.5) id HAA24698; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:18:37 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:18:37 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199911171418.HAA24698@salmon.esosoft.net> To: tgrahl@iocenter.net From: Majordomo@List-Server.net Subject: Majordomo file: list 'mustangii-digest' file 'v01.n020' Reply-To: Majordomo@List-Server.net -- From: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net (mustangii-digest) To: mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Subject: mustangii-digest V1 #20 Reply-To: mustangii@List-Server.net Sender: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Errors-To: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Precedence: bulk mustangii-digest Thursday, October 21 1999 Volume 01 : Number 020 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:02:02 -0700 From: "Vincent Beauvais" Subject: King Cobra wheels This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BF1B4F.1F28D800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I hope this hasn't been asked already, but what is the width of the King Cobra lacey-spoke rims? I know the factory installed tire size was 195/70R13, so I suspect the rim width is 5.5". Can anyone confirm? By the way, the stock tire size is getting tough to find these days, so does anyone know how a 205/60R13 tire would look on these rims? (too much bulge?) The lower profile tire should result in the speedo reading slightly high, but I could live with this. Vincent Beauvais - ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BF1B4F.1F28D800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,
 
I hope = this hasn't=20 been asked already, but what is the width of the King Cobra lacey-spoke = rims? I=20 know the factory installed tire size was 195/70R13, so I suspect the rim = width=20 is 5.5". Can anyone confirm?
 
By the = way, the=20 stock tire size is getting tough to find these days, so does anyone know = how a=20 205/60R13 tire would look on these rims? (too much bulge?) The lower = profile=20 tire should result in the speedo reading slightly high, but I could live = with=20 this.
 
Vincent=20 Beauvais
- ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BF1B4F.1F28D800-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 01:30:18 -0700 From: "Darryl Lang" Subject: RE: King Cobra wheels This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF1B63.D5551B20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The width for all alloy rims, and all steel rims that had the 195/70 tires is 5.5". The following webpage is taken from a '78 Ford Service Specification manual covering rim sizes and identification for the Mustang II, Pinto, and Bobcat. http://fp.premier1.net/a351must/FAQs/miiwheels.htm I've used the 205/60-13s on a few sets of 13X5.5 wheels and they do bulge a bit. They still bulge on a 6" Cragar rim too. They do make the car handle a lot better though. Darryl -----Original Message----- From: owner-mustangii@List-Server.net [mailto:owner-mustangii@List-Server.net]On Behalf Of Vincent Beauvais Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 11:02 PM To: Mustang II mailing list Subject: King Cobra wheels Hello, I hope this hasn't been asked already, but what is the width of the King Cobra lacey-spoke rims? I know the factory installed tire size was 195/70R13, so I suspect the rim width is 5.5". Can anyone confirm? By the way, the stock tire size is getting tough to find these days, so does anyone know how a 205/60R13 tire would look on these rims? (too much bulge?) The lower profile tire should result in the speedo reading slightly high, but I could live with this. Vincent Beauvais - ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF1B63.D5551B20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The=20 width for all alloy rims, and all steel rims that had the 195/70 tires = is=20 5.5".  The following webpage is taken from a '78 Ford Service = Specification=20 manual covering rim sizes and identification for the Mustang II, Pinto, = and=20 Bobcat.
 
http://fp.pre= mier1.net/a351must/FAQs/miiwheels.htm
 
I've=20 used the 205/60-13s on a few sets of 13X5.5 wheels and they do bulge a=20 bit.  They still bulge on a 6" Cragar rim too.  They do make = the car=20 handle a lot better though.
 
Darryl
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-mustangii@List-Server.net = [mailto:owner-mustangii@List-Server.net]On=20 Behalf Of Vincent Beauvais
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, = 1999=20 11:02 PM
To: Mustang II mailing list
Subject: King = Cobra=20 wheels

Hello,
 
I = hope this hasn't=20 been asked already, but what is the width of the King Cobra = lacey-spoke rims?=20 I know the factory installed tire size was 195/70R13, so I suspect the = rim=20 width is 5.5". Can anyone confirm?
 
By = the way, the=20 stock tire size is getting tough to find these days, so does anyone = know how a=20 205/60R13 tire would look on these rims? (too much bulge?) The lower = profile=20 tire should result in the speedo reading slightly high, but I could = live with=20 this.
 
Vincent=20 Beauvais
- ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF1B63.D5551B20-- ------------------------------ End of mustangii-digest V1 #20 ****************************** From Majordomo-Owner@List-Server.net Wed Nov 17 09:17:59 1999 Received: from salmon.esosoft.net (salmon.esosoft.net [192.41.17.47]) by luke.iocenter.net (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA00979 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:17:58 -0500 Received: (salmon@localhost) by salmon.esosoft.net (8.8.5) id HAA24701; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:18:42 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:18:42 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199911171418.HAA24701@salmon.esosoft.net> To: tgrahl@iocenter.net From: Majordomo@List-Server.net Subject: Majordomo file: list 'mustangii-digest' file 'v01.n021' Reply-To: Majordomo@List-Server.net -- From: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net (mustangii-digest) To: mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Subject: mustangii-digest V1 #21 Reply-To: mustangii@List-Server.net Sender: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Errors-To: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Precedence: bulk mustangii-digest Friday, October 22 1999 Volume 01 : Number 021 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Oct 99 10:00:42 -0400 From: "Timothy Grahl" Subject: Additions to the Network We have added a couple of photos to the Scans & Misc Photos area included a scan of a blank build sheet. We also came across two "press" photos for the 1978 Mustang II. Follow this link to see the new additons. http://www.mustangii.net/photo_misc.htm Tim Grahl Mustang II Network ------------------------------ End of mustangii-digest V1 #21 ****************************** From Majordomo-Owner@List-Server.net Wed Nov 17 09:19:05 1999 Received: from salmon.esosoft.net (salmon.esosoft.net [192.41.17.47]) by luke.iocenter.net (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA00983 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:19:04 -0500 Received: (salmon@localhost) by salmon.esosoft.net (8.8.5) id HAA24720; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:18:57 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:18:57 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199911171418.HAA24720@salmon.esosoft.net> To: tgrahl@iocenter.net From: Majordomo@List-Server.net Subject: Majordomo file: list 'mustangii-digest' file 'v01.n022' Reply-To: Majordomo@List-Server.net -- From: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net (mustangii-digest) To: mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Subject: mustangii-digest V1 #22 Reply-To: mustangii@List-Server.net Sender: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Errors-To: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Precedence: bulk mustangii-digest Thursday, October 28 1999 Volume 01 : Number 022 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Oct 99 11:44:41 -0400 From: "Timothy Grahl" Subject: Invoice Update The Mustang II invoices are still in the hands of Dale Rabe and will remain that way. The rumor that a guy named Dave in Michigan is getting them is completely untrue. Tim Grahl Mustang II Network ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:54:29 EDT From: "Tom Spencer" Subject: Listserve Commands Maybe the admin of the most boring mailing list on the planet could send me the commands to remove myself from it. Tom ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:17:43 -0700 From: "Darryl Lang" Subject: Re: Listserve Commands Why worry. At least a boring list doesn't clutter you mailbox with 100 BS e-mails/day. Try joining the Ford Turbo mailing list....there is rarely any useful answers to a question there. They're more likely to flame you for asking a common question or making a ridiculous claim. I've only got 2 usefull bits of information of that list in 2 weeks and well over 1000 e-mails. Darryl - ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Spencer To: Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 8:54 AM Subject: Listserve Commands > > Maybe the admin of the most boring mailing list on the planet could send me > the commands to remove myself from it. > Tom > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 18:09:02 -0500 From: Donnie Nix Subject: Re: Invoice Update Yeah!! Sorry just happy. Timothy Grahl wrote: > The Mustang II invoices are still in the hands of Dale Rabe and will remain that way. > The rumor that a guy named Dave in Michigan is getting them is completely untrue. > > Tim Grahl > Mustang II Network ------------------------------ End of mustangii-digest V1 #22 ****************************** From Majordomo-Owner@List-Server.net Wed Nov 17 09:18:10 1999 Received: from salmon.esosoft.net (salmon.esosoft.net [192.41.17.47]) by luke.iocenter.net (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA00981 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:18:08 -0500 Received: (salmon@localhost) by salmon.esosoft.net (8.8.5) id HAA24744; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:18:58 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:18:58 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199911171418.HAA24744@salmon.esosoft.net> To: tgrahl@iocenter.net From: Majordomo@List-Server.net Subject: Majordomo file: list 'mustangii-digest' file 'v01.n023' Reply-To: Majordomo@List-Server.net -- From: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net (mustangii-digest) To: mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Subject: mustangii-digest V1 #23 Reply-To: mustangii@List-Server.net Sender: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Errors-To: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Precedence: bulk mustangii-digest Friday, October 29 1999 Volume 01 : Number 023 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:00:11 -0400 From: " DAVE WILSON" Subject: RE: RE: New Info The last word I've heard is that he has never responded to inquiries for invoices. I guess I didn't remember comments about money changing hands either. So the complainers never let anyone else know when he did finally get around to providing the invoices? I can't say I've followed all the other list's threads religiously, but subjects change and titles don't always. Thanks Dave Fisher Titus Medical Center > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mustangii@List-Server.net > [mailto:owner-mustangii@List-Server.net]On Behalf Of Timothy Grahl > Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 8:09 AM > To: mustangii@list-server.net > Subject: Re: RE: New Info > > > Dale is(?) the owner of all of the original Mustang II invoices. > The invoice is the second copy of the "window sticker" and lists the > price and options of your specific car. He is(?) providing copies of > these invoices for II owners who provide him with a copy of their > title and $30.00 In the past, some people have been disappointed with > Dale because it take a while for him to send the invoice. Some > people have > waited months and some have waited weeks. You can be in a hurry > with Dale. > Some of us from Michigan were planning on getting together with Dale at > the end of the month. With this rumor that he got rid of the > invoices though > that might not happen. > > Tim > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: Pineaplpkr@aol.com > Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net > Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 04:57:25 EDT > > >Hi > >I got in on this late and I don't know what you guys are talking > about. What > >is it all about. What are these invoices that you are talking > about? Kevin > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 99 13:08:38 -0400 From: "Timothy Grahl" Subject: RE: RE: New Info Basically in a nut shell, Dale requires $30 and a copy of your title. It does take a while to get the invoice but it does come. The "complainers" you were referring to never sent any money or a copy of their title. They were waiting for word on how to get the invoices or the chance of doing something special for the list. - ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: " DAVE WILSON" Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:00:11 -0400 >The last word I've heard is that he has never responded to inquiries for >invoices. I guess I didn't remember comments about money changing hands >either. So the complainers never let anyone else know when he did finally >get around to providing the invoices? > >I can't say I've followed all the other list's threads religiously, but >subjects change and titles don't always. > > > > >Thanks >Dave > >Fisher Titus Medical Center > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-mustangii@List-Server.net >> [mailto:owner-mustangii@List-Server.net]On Behalf Of Timothy Grahl >> Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 8:09 AM >> To: mustangii@list-server.net >> Subject: Re: RE: New Info >> >> >> Dale is(?) the owner of all of the original Mustang II invoices. >> The invoice is the second copy of the "window sticker" and lists the >> price and options of your specific car. He is(?) providing copies of >> these invoices for II owners who provide him with a copy of their >> title and $30.00 In the past, some people have been disappointed with >> Dale because it take a while for him to send the invoice. Some >> people have >> waited months and some have waited weeks. You can be in a hurry >> with Dale. >> Some of us from Michigan were planning on getting together with Dale at >> the end of the month. With this rumor that he got rid of the >> invoices though >> that might not happen. >> >> Tim >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >> From: Pineaplpkr@aol.com >> Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net >> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 04:57:25 EDT >> >> >Hi >> >I got in on this late and I don't know what you guys are talking >> about. What >> >is it all about. What are these invoices that you are talking >> about? Kevin >> > >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:40:56 EDT From: A1977STANG@aol.com Subject: Re: New Info Can someone tell me what this is about? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 01:27:00 -0400 From: "stangiii" Subject: Re: RE: New Info - ---------- > From: Timothy Grahl > To: mustangii@list-server.net > Subject: RE: RE: New Info > Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 1:08 PM > > Basically in a nut shell, Dale requires $30 and a copy of your title. Sure, send someone that does not return phone calls, faxes, or personal letters, a copy of my title? That's still got me ROTFLMAO. Jeez, wouldn't a hand written note with all the pertinant information work also? Never got an answer for that one. For some insane reason Dale needs to know you actually own the car ( or so tim says, he's the Point Man on this subject. Don't push him, he goes nuts. ). There is some speculation that it is a controol thing but, since none ( except those in Michagan ) have ever corrisponded with this Dale character in a one on one situation , no one really knows. In closing I say, one would be a fool to send a copy of a title to anyone, much more so to someone so "in the shadows". You could wake up some day and find you no longer own your car. It's possable. > The "complainers" you were referring to never sent any money or a copy of their > > title. Sent money and pertinant info but no title so they were left hanging?? Please explane. We all want to know. stangiii@yahoo.com P.S. I now fully expect to be banned from this list. Later. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of mustangii-digest V1 #23 ****************************** From Majordomo-Owner@List-Server.net Wed Nov 17 09:19:08 1999 Received: from salmon.esosoft.net (salmon.esosoft.net [192.41.17.47]) by luke.iocenter.net (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA00985 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:19:07 -0500 Received: (salmon@localhost) by salmon.esosoft.net (8.8.5) id HAA24766; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:19:08 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:19:08 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199911171419.HAA24766@salmon.esosoft.net> To: tgrahl@iocenter.net From: Majordomo@List-Server.net Subject: Majordomo file: list 'mustangii-digest' file 'v01.n024' Reply-To: Majordomo@List-Server.net -- From: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net (mustangii-digest) To: mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Subject: mustangii-digest V1 #24 Reply-To: mustangii@List-Server.net Sender: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Errors-To: owner-mustangii-digest@List-Server.net Precedence: bulk mustangii-digest Saturday, October 30 1999 Volume 01 : Number 024 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:44:07 -0500 From: "Chris Pasternak" Subject: Re: RE: New Info Really its not that odd of a request for a copy of the title and $30.00. This is the same thing being asked for invoices for the first generation Mustangs, I just saw an ad in Mustang Monthly, or Mustang and ford. CHRIS 76 Blue COBRA II 351 77.5 White / Blue COBRA II 2.8 71 Lincoln Mark III 460 (best original non-classic auburn, 1st LCOC nat) - -----Original Message----- From: stangiii To: mustangii@List-Server.net Date: Friday, October 29, 1999 12:27 AM Subject: Re: RE: New Info > > >---------- >> From: Timothy Grahl >> To: mustangii@list-server.net >> Subject: RE: RE: New Info >> Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 1:08 PM >> >> Basically in a nut shell, Dale requires $30 and a copy of your title. > >Sure, send someone that does not return phone calls, faxes, or personal >letters, a copy of my title? That's still got me ROTFLMAO. Jeez, wouldn't a >hand written note with all the pertinant information work also? Never got >an answer for that one. > >For some insane reason Dale needs to know you actually own the car ( or so >tim says, he's the Point Man on this subject. Don't push him, he goes nuts. >). > >There is some speculation that it is a controol thing but, since none ( >except those in Michagan ) have ever corrisponded with this Dale character >in a one on one situation , no one really knows. > >In closing I say, one would be a fool to send a copy of a title to anyone, >much more so to someone so "in the shadows". You could wake up some day and >find you no longer own your car. It's possable. > >> The "complainers" you were referring to never sent any money or a copy of >their > > title. > >Sent money and pertinant info but no title so they were left hanging?? > >Please explane. We all want to know. > >stangiii@yahoo.com > >P.S. I now fully expect to be banned from this list. Later. > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 99 09:52:23 -0400 From: "Timothy Grahl" Subject: Re: RE: New Info That is a true statement. Official Registries sometimes require a copy of the title too. As far as a copy of a title being used to "steal" the car, I don't see it happening. Some insurance companies need copies of the title as well as some other sources. I wouldn't worry about that too much. We also need to remember that maybe Dale is trying to keep this as "official" and legal as possible. He does work for the Ford Motor Company legal department after all. - ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Chris Pasternak" Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:44:07 -0500 >Really its not that odd of a request for a copy of the title and $30.00. >This is the same thing being asked for invoices for the first generation >Mustangs, I just saw an ad in Mustang Monthly, or Mustang and ford. > >CHRIS > >76 Blue COBRA II 351 >77.5 White / Blue COBRA II 2.8 >71 Lincoln Mark III 460 (best original non-classic auburn, 1st LCOC nat) >-----Original Message----- >From: stangiii >To: mustangii@List-Server.net >Date: Friday, October 29, 1999 12:27 AM >Subject: Re: RE: New Info > > >> >> >>---------- >>> From: Timothy Grahl >>> To: mustangii@list-server.net >>> Subject: RE: RE: New Info >>> Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 1:08 PM >>> >>> Basically in a nut shell, Dale requires $30 and a copy of your title. >> >>Sure, send someone that does not return phone calls, faxes, or personal >>letters, a copy of my title? That's still got me ROTFLMAO. Jeez, wouldn't a >>hand written note with all the pertinant information work also? Never got >>an answer for that one. >> >>For some insane reason Dale needs to know you actually own the car ( or so >>tim says, he's the Point Man on this subject. Don't push him, he goes nuts. >>). >> >>There is some speculation that it is a controol thing but, since none ( >>except those in Michagan ) have ever corrisponded with this Dale character >>in a one on one situation , no one really knows. >> >>In closing I say, one would be a fool to send a copy of a title to anyone, >>much more so to someone so "in the shadows". You could wake up some day and >>find you no longer own your car. It's possable. >> >>> The "complainers" you were referring to never sent any money or a copy of >>their > > title. >> >>Sent money and pertinant info but no title so they were left hanging?? >> >>Please explane. We all want to know. >> >>stangiii@yahoo.com >> >>P.S. I now fully expect to be banned from this list. Later. >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Do You Yahoo!? >>Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:53:33 EDT From: "Tom Spencer" Subject: Re: RE: New Info Well Mark don't expect to be banned we all know your a moron so we give you a little slack on the stupid things you say. We like the fact that your think some guy in Michigan is going to come steal your II with a photocopy title but we all know the II blackmarket is HUGE I hear it's number one on the top ten stolen car list. Dale hardly has enough time to get the invoices out I can't really see him travling across country to steal your II if you have ever seen Dale's King you would not have to worry about him taking yours unless you spend the next 20 years making it as perfect as his. Like I said Mark your free to stay and be a moron it brings some entertainment to this list. And the other reason we won't ban you is you will go cry like the bitch you are to the other mailing list. Tom >From: "stangiii" >Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net >To: >Subject: Re: RE: New Info >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 01:27:00 -0400 > > > >---------- > > From: Timothy Grahl > > To: mustangii@list-server.net > > Subject: RE: RE: New Info > > Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 1:08 PM > > > > Basically in a nut shell, Dale requires $30 and a copy of your title. > >Sure, send someone that does not return phone calls, faxes, or personal >letters, a copy of my title? That's still got me ROTFLMAO. Jeez, wouldn't a >hand written note with all the pertinant information work also? Never got >an answer for that one. > >For some insane reason Dale needs to know you actually own the car ( or so >tim says, he's the Point Man on this subject. Don't push him, he goes nuts. >). > >There is some speculation that it is a controol thing but, since none ( >except those in Michagan ) have ever corrisponded with this Dale character >in a one on one situation , no one really knows. > >In closing I say, one would be a fool to send a copy of a title to anyone, >much more so to someone so "in the shadows". You could wake up some day and >find you no longer own your car. It's possable. > > > The "complainers" you were referring to never sent any money or a copy >of >their > > title. > >Sent money and pertinant info but no title so they were left hanging?? > >Please explane. We all want to know. > >stangiii@yahoo.com > >P.S. I now fully expect to be banned from this list. Later. > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:23:03 -0400 From: " DAVE WILSON" Subject: RE: RE: New Info I think that response was just a little out of line! Common sense dictate caution when sending anything to someone else, especially when you don't know him or her. I get grief from my wife frequently for sending my charge card information over the net...and it does make me nervous as does giving it out over the phone. I'm also a member of the other Mustang II list and frequent both. Does that cause a problem? I don't think Tim is restricting membership to his list only; if so I'll probably be removed. I've met and talked to Dale at the Dearborn show a year ago last June, he's a real talker. He was real energetic, interested in the II's. He has a fantastic King Cobra and he was real interested in the modifications I made to mine. I'm thinking of sending off for the invoice, but the $30 slows me more than the title copy. We'll that's enough for now. Thanks Dave Wilson > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mustangii@List-Server.net > [mailto:owner-mustangii@List-Server.net]On Behalf Of Tom Spencer > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 9:54 AM > To: mustangii@list-server.net > Subject: Re: RE: New Info > > > > Well Mark don't expect to be banned we all know your a moron so > we give you > a little slack on the stupid things you say. We like the fact that your > think some guy in Michigan is going to come steal your II with a > photocopy > title but we all know the II blackmarket is HUGE I hear it's > number one on > the top ten stolen car list. Dale hardly has enough time to get > the invoices > out I can't really see him travling across country to steal your > II if you > have ever seen Dale's King you would not have to worry about him taking > yours unless you spend the next 20 years making it as perfect as > his. Like I > said Mark your free to stay and be a moron it brings some > entertainment to > this list. And the other reason we won't ban you is you will go > cry like the > bitch you are to the other mailing list. > Tom > > >From: "stangiii" > >Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net > >To: > >Subject: Re: RE: New Info > >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 01:27:00 -0400 > > > > > > > >---------- > > > From: Timothy Grahl > > > To: mustangii@list-server.net > > > Subject: RE: RE: New Info > > > Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 1:08 PM > > > > > > Basically in a nut shell, Dale requires $30 and a copy of your title. > > > >Sure, send someone that does not return phone calls, faxes, or personal > >letters, a copy of my title? That's still got me ROTFLMAO. Jeez, > wouldn't a > >hand written note with all the pertinant information work also? Never got > >an answer for that one. > > > >For some insane reason Dale needs to know you actually own the > car ( or so > >tim says, he's the Point Man on this subject. Don't push him, he > goes nuts. > >). > > > >There is some speculation that it is a controol thing but, since none ( > >except those in Michagan ) have ever corrisponded with this Dale > character > >in a one on one situation , no one really knows. > > > >In closing I say, one would be a fool to send a copy of a title > to anyone, > >much more so to someone so "in the shadows". You could wake up > some day and > >find you no longer own your car. It's possable. > > > > > The "complainers" you were referring to never sent any money > or a copy > >of > >their > > title. > > > >Sent money and pertinant info but no title so they were left hanging?? > > > >Please explane. We all want to know. > > > >stangiii@yahoo.com > > > >P.S. I now fully expect to be banned from this list. Later. > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:50:31 EDT From: DaWiZaRd66@aol.com Subject: Re: RE: New Info what r u guys talking about i am really confused please explain ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 99 12:14:37 -0400 From: "Timothy Grahl" Subject: Re: RE: New Info I would hope we would keep comments of this nature private. Everyone has the right to express their opinions. At this point I am not banning anyone. If you want to be on both mailing lists that is fine with me. One conversation on one list might even benefit the other. tim - ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Tom Spencer" Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:53:33 EDT > >Well Mark don't expect to be banned we all know your a moron so we give you >a little slack on the stupid things you say. We like the fact that your >think some guy in Michigan is going to come steal your II with a photocopy >title but we all know the II blackmarket is HUGE I hear it's number one on >the top ten stolen car list. Dale hardly has enough time to get the invoices >out I can't really see him travling across country to steal your II if you >have ever seen Dale's King you would not have to worry about him taking >yours unless you spend the next 20 years making it as perfect as his. Like I >said Mark your free to stay and be a moron it brings some entertainment to >this list. And the other reason we won't ban you is you will go cry like the >bitch you are to the other mailing list. >Tom > >>From: "stangiii" >>Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net >>To: >>Subject: Re: RE: New Info >>Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 01:27:00 -0400 >> >> >> >>---------- >> > From: Timothy Grahl >> > To: mustangii@list-server.net >> > Subject: RE: RE: New Info >> > Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 1:08 PM >> > >> > Basically in a nut shell, Dale requires $30 and a copy of your title. >> >>Sure, send someone that does not return phone calls, faxes, or personal >>letters, a copy of my title? That's still got me ROTFLMAO. Jeez, wouldn't a >>hand written note with all the pertinant information work also? Never got >>an answer for that one. >> >>For some insane reason Dale needs to know you actually own the car ( or so >>tim says, he's the Point Man on this subject. Don't push him, he goes nuts. >>). >> >>There is some speculation that it is a controol thing but, since none ( >>except those in Michagan ) have ever corrisponded with this Dale character >>in a one on one situation , no one really knows. >> >>In closing I say, one would be a fool to send a copy of a title to anyone, >>much more so to someone so "in the shadows". You could wake up some day and >>find you no longer own your car. It's possable. >> >> > The "complainers" you were referring to never sent any money or a copy >>of >>their > > title. >> >>Sent money and pertinant info but no title so they were left hanging?? >> >>Please explane. We all want to know. >> >>stangiii@yahoo.com >> >>P.S. I now fully expect to be banned from this list. Later. >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Do You Yahoo!? >>Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com >> > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:40:50 -0500 From: "Chris Pasternak" Subject: Mustang II Coin Tim did you get the coin on ebay? I was wondering I picked one up last summer on Ebay, mine was in a plastic casr with a blue cardboard matte that said Jack Loftus Ford. The guy I got it from got it new when he bought his car in 74, he said it was a promo from the dealer that is why it has the JL logo on it. The dealership was in the Chicago area. CHRIS 76 Blue COBRA II 351 77.5 White / Blue COBRA II 2.8 71 Lincoln Mark III 460 (best original non-classic auburn, 1st LCOC nat) - -----Original Message----- From: Timothy Grahl To: mustangii@List-Server.net Date: Friday, October 29, 1999 11:15 AM Subject: Re: RE: New Info >I would hope we would keep comments of this nature private. >Everyone has the right to express their opinions. At this point I am not banning anyone. >If you want to be on both mailing lists that is fine with me. One conversation on one list might even benefit the other. > >tim > > >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >From: "Tom Spencer" >Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:53:33 EDT > >> >>Well Mark don't expect to be banned we all know your a moron so we give you >>a little slack on the stupid things you say. We like the fact that your >>think some guy in Michigan is going to come steal your II with a photocopy >>title but we all know the II blackmarket is HUGE I hear it's number one on >>the top ten stolen car list. Dale hardly has enough time to get the invoices >>out I can't really see him travling across country to steal your II if you >>have ever seen Dale's King you would not have to worry about him taking >>yours unless you spend the next 20 years making it as perfect as his. Like I >>said Mark your free to stay and be a moron it brings some entertainment to >>this list. And the other reason we won't ban you is you will go cry like the >>bitch you are to the other mailing list. >>Tom >> >>>From: "stangiii" >>>Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net >>>To: >>>Subject: Re: RE: New Info >>>Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 01:27:00 -0400 >>> >>> >>> >>>---------- >>> > From: Timothy Grahl >>> > To: mustangii@list-server.net >>> > Subject: RE: RE: New Info >>> > Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 1:08 PM >>> > >>> > Basically in a nut shell, Dale requires $30 and a copy of your title. >>> >>>Sure, send someone that does not return phone calls, faxes, or personal >>>letters, a copy of my title? That's still got me ROTFLMAO. Jeez, wouldn't a >>>hand written note with all the pertinant information work also? Never got >>>an answer for that one. >>> >>>For some insane reason Dale needs to know you actually own the car ( or so >>>tim says, he's the Point Man on this subject. Don't push him, he goes nuts. >>>). >>> >>>There is some speculation that it is a controol thing but, since none ( >>>except those in Michagan ) have ever corrisponded with this Dale character >>>in a one on one situation , no one really knows. >>> >>>In closing I say, one would be a fool to send a copy of a title to anyone, >>>much more so to someone so "in the shadows". You could wake up some day and >>>find you no longer own your car. It's possable. >>> >>> > The "complainers" you were referring to never sent any money or a copy >>>of >>>their > > title. >>> >>>Sent money and pertinant info but no title so they were left hanging?? >>> >>>Please explane. We all want to know. >>> >>>stangiii@yahoo.com >>> >>>P.S. I now fully expect to be banned from this list. Later. >>> >>>__________________________________________________ >>>Do You Yahoo!? >>>Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com >>> >> >>______________________________________________________ >>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 99 12:44:04 -0400 From: "Timothy Grahl" Subject: Re: RE: New Info We are talking about the 2nd original invoices for all of the Mustang IIs. Dale Rabe, who works for Ford, has these invoices in his personal possession. The are basically the "window sticker" for the car that was retained by Ford. You can receive a color copy of this invoice if you send Dale a copy of your title and $30. It may take a while to receive them though due to the volume of invoices (close to 1 million)> - ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: DaWiZaRd66@aol.com Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:50:31 EDT >what r u guys talking about i am really confused please explain > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 99 13:01:37 -0400 From: "Timothy Grahl" Subject: Re: Mustang II Coin No, I didn't get the coin. I stopped bidding when it went over $20. I wasn't sure what it was worth or how rare they were. - ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Chris Pasternak" Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:40:50 -0500 >Tim did you get the coin on ebay? I was wondering I picked one up last >summer on Ebay, mine was in a plastic casr with a blue cardboard matte that >said Jack Loftus Ford. The guy I got it from got it new when he bought his >car in 74, he said it was a promo from the dealer that is why it has the JL >logo on it. The dealership was in the Chicago area. > >CHRIS > >76 Blue COBRA II 351 >77.5 White / Blue COBRA II 2.8 >71 Lincoln Mark III 460 (best original non-classic auburn, 1st LCOC nat) >-----Original Message----- >From: Timothy Grahl >To: mustangii@List-Server.net >Date: Friday, October 29, 1999 11:15 AM >Subject: Re: RE: New Info > > >>I would hope we would keep comments of this nature private. >>Everyone has the right to express their opinions. At this point I am not >banning anyone. >>If you want to be on both mailing lists that is fine with me. One >conversation on one list might even benefit the other. >> >>tim >> >> >>---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >>From: "Tom Spencer" >>Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net >>Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:53:33 EDT >> >>> >>>Well Mark don't expect to be banned we all know your a moron so we give >you >>>a little slack on the stupid things you say. We like the fact that your >>>think some guy in Michigan is going to come steal your II with a photocopy >>>title but we all know the II blackmarket is HUGE I hear it's number one on >>>the top ten stolen car list. Dale hardly has enough time to get the >invoices >>>out I can't really see him travling across country to steal your II if you >>>have ever seen Dale's King you would not have to worry about him taking >>>yours unless you spend the next 20 years making it as perfect as his. Like >I >>>said Mark your free to stay and be a moron it brings some entertainment to >>>this list. And the other reason we won't ban you is you will go cry like >the >>>bitch you are to the other mailing list. >>>Tom >>> >>>>From: "stangiii" >>>>Reply-To: mustangii@list-server.net >>>>To: >>>>Subject: Re: RE: New Info >>>>Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 01:27:00 -0400 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>---------- >>>> > From: Timothy Grahl >>>> > To: mustangii@list-server.net >>>> > Subject: RE: RE: New Info >>>> > Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 1:08 PM >>>> > >>>> > Basically in a nut shell, Dale requires $30 and a copy of your title. >>>> >>>>Sure, send someone that does not return phone calls, faxes, or personal >>>>letters, a copy of my title? That's still got me ROTFLMAO. Jeez, wouldn't >a >>>>hand written note with all the pertinant information work also? Never got >>>>an answer for that one. >>>> >>>>For some insane reason Dale needs to know you actually own the car ( or >so >>>>tim says, he's the Point Man on this subject. Don't push him, he goes >nuts. >>>>). >>>> >>>>There is some speculation that it is a controol thing but, since none ( >>>>except those in Michagan ) have ever corrisponded with this Dale >character >>>>in a one on one situation , no one really knows. >>>> >>>>In closing I say, one would be a fool to send a copy of a title to >anyone, >>>>much more so to someone so "in the shadows". You could wake up some day >and >>>>find you no longer own your car. It's possable. >>>> >>>> > The "complainers" you were referring to never sent any money or a copy >>>>of >>>>their > > title. >>>> >>>>Sent money and pertinant info but no title so they were left hanging?? >>>> >>>>Please explane. We all want to know. >>>> >>>>stangiii@yahoo.com >>>> >>>>P.S. I now fully expect to be banned from this list. Later. >>>> >>>>__________________________________________________ >>>>Do You Yahoo!? >>>>Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com >>>> >>> >>>______________________________________________________ >>>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >>> >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:43:29 -0400 From: "stangiii" Subject: Re: RE: New Info - ---------- > From: Tom Spencer > To: mustangii@list-server.net > Subject: Re: RE: New Info > Date: Friday, October 29, 1999 9:53 AM > > > Well Mark don't expect to be banned ... Mark? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 21:38:02 EDT From: DBaldi5633@aol.com Subject: Listserve Commands Requesting removal from your mailing list. ------------------------------ End of mustangii-digest V1 #24 ******************************